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Sunday, September 25, 2005
Can you pass the citizenship test?
I can! Yay! In your face, all you silly people (mostly non-American, go figure) who call me anti-American! [hat tip: reluctant OCer ispork]
It's been said lots of times, sometimes directed at me specifically and sometimes me lumped together with a group of others. Here's an example from AsiaPages.
By the way, San Nakji (and you, too, ispork), when the new Patriot Act regulations are passed, native-born Americans who fail to pass the "loyal American" test may find themselves deported.
The patriot act is a bunch of bullshit. It is this 'you are either with us or against us' attitude which is losing the US friends around the world. In this part of the world NZ was a big supporter of US policy, but no longer. I am sure the same can be said for Germany and others. I always thought USA was the land of the free, but apparently not anymore... Criticising a government and its' policies is not anti-American, anti-American is saying I hate everything about America, just because. I quite like Americans, just don't have time for your silly government...
San Nakji wrote: The patriot act is a bunch of bullshit. It is this 'you are either with us or against us' attitude which is losing the US friends around the world.
Yeah, but for every France and Germany there's a Poland ready to take its place. A country that might not agree with the policy but is going along to show that it's a true ally of the United States.
But as we can see with South Korea and Poland, this doesn't always work. There's little recognition for Korea and there's little quid pro quo for Poland.
In this part of the world NZ was a big supporter of US policy, but no longer. I am sure the same can be said for Germany and others.
Would that change if there were a Democrat (e.g., Al Gore) or a moderate Republican not heavily associated with the Bush White House (e.g., John McCain or Chuck Hagel as president? Would NZ go back to being buddy-buddy with the US or is this not just Bush-related?
I always thought USA was the land of the free, but apparently not anymore... Criticising a government and its' policies is not anti-American, anti-American is saying I hate everything about America, just because. I quite like Americans, just don't have time for your silly government...
Well, a lot of Americans don't have time for their silly government. If only they'd voted.
Anyway, the "America, love it or leave it" crowd is nothing new; there are rednecks in every country. It's just that they're in power now. At least for a while. Let's hope that they don't do too much damage while they're there.
Space Nakji said... Kushibo wrote: ...when the new Patriot Act regulations are passed, native-born Americans who fail to pass the "loyal American" test may find themselves deported...
Uh, that was a joke, right? 'Cause I pretty much bombed that test as well... 6/10. Oh, the shame... *^^*
Better start packing, Spacey.
No, as far as I know, it's a joke. I meant it as a joke, anyway, but who knows what they're plotting? After all, if native-born US citizens who are minors can be prevented from living in the United States by denying residency to their parents, or by doing the stuff that Oranckay describes for children born to US citizens who have been outside the US for a certain period of time (I wish I could find the link), who knows how far they'll go?
It's not an anti-Bush thing as such, more anti-policy. Relations were definitely better with Clinton although the US is pretty firm on NZ changing current nuclear policy. It seems like relations will never be the same unless we do what America wants. That's the major sticking point. Georgie Boy doesn't help though.
The question is how ARE they... They have frozen out New Zealand from any high level contact with US Government, they have refused to talk free trade agreements with NZ, basically snobbing NZ and the years of arse kissing that we have put in over the years... One side of our parliament is wavering...
San Nakji wrote: The question is how ARE they... They have frozen out New Zealand from any high level contact with US Government, they have refused to talk free trade agreements with NZ, basically snobbing NZ and the years of arse kissing that we have put in over the years... One side of our parliament is wavering...
Even under the Clinton administration they were freezing out NZ from any high level contact with the US government? Even under Clinton they refused to talk free-trade agreements with NZ?
I did not know that. What are the aims of the US? What is the US government trying to get NZ to do? Was the Clinton administration trying to do the same thing?
Yup, Clinton did nothing for us, although he did make an appearance. They want us to get back into the American fold. This means accepting nuclear ships and probably then will will have to invade some poor country...
Yup, Clinton did nothing for us, although he did make an appearance. They want us to get back into the American fold. This means accepting nuclear ships and probably then will will have to invade some poor country...
So this was about not allowing nuclear subs to visit? I have heard about that.
But allowing them to visit and going off to war are two different things.
Hey, aren't NZ, Australia, and the USA under some sort of mutual defense pact?
kushibo ajushi: "..all you silly people (mostly non-American, go figure) who call me anti-American!"
ReplyDeletewho says you're anti-american?
Weird, yeah, who said that?
ReplyDeleteI failed by the way, only 6/10.
It's been said lots of times, sometimes directed at me specifically and sometimes me lumped together with a group of others. Here's an example from AsiaPages.
ReplyDeleteSan Nakji wrote:
ReplyDeleteI failed by the way, only 6/10.
By the way, San Nakji (and you, too, ispork), when the new Patriot Act regulations are passed, native-born Americans who fail to pass the "loyal American" test may find themselves deported.
You've been warned.
The patriot act is a bunch of bullshit. It is this 'you are either with us or against us' attitude which is losing the US friends around the world. In this part of the world NZ was a big supporter of US policy, but no longer. I am sure the same can be said for Germany and others. I always thought USA was the land of the free, but apparently not anymore... Criticising a government and its' policies is not anti-American, anti-American is saying I hate everything about America, just because. I quite like Americans, just don't have time for your silly government...
ReplyDeleteSan Nakji wrote:
ReplyDeleteThe patriot act is a bunch of bullshit. It is this 'you are either with us or against us' attitude which is losing the US friends around the world.
Yeah, but for every France and Germany there's a Poland ready to take its place. A country that might not agree with the policy but is going along to show that it's a true ally of the United States.
But as we can see with South Korea and Poland, this doesn't always work. There's little recognition for Korea and there's little quid pro quo for Poland.
In this part of the world NZ was a big supporter of US policy, but no longer. I am sure the same can be said for Germany and others.
Would that change if there were a Democrat (e.g., Al Gore) or a moderate Republican not heavily associated with the Bush White House (e.g., John McCain or Chuck Hagel as president? Would NZ go back to being buddy-buddy with the US or is this not just Bush-related?
I always thought USA was the land of the free, but apparently not anymore... Criticising a government and its' policies is not anti-American, anti-American is saying I hate everything about America, just because. I quite like Americans, just don't have time for your silly government...
Well, a lot of Americans don't have time for their silly government. If only they'd voted.
Anyway, the "America, love it or leave it" crowd is nothing new; there are rednecks in every country. It's just that they're in power now. At least for a while. Let's hope that they don't do too much damage while they're there.
Space Nakji said...
ReplyDeleteKushibo wrote:
...when the new Patriot Act regulations are passed, native-born Americans who fail to pass the "loyal American" test may find themselves deported...
Uh, that was a joke, right? 'Cause I pretty much bombed that test as well... 6/10. Oh, the shame... *^^*
Better start packing, Spacey.
No, as far as I know, it's a joke. I meant it as a joke, anyway, but who knows what they're plotting? After all, if native-born US citizens who are minors can be prevented from living in the United States by denying residency to their parents, or by doing the stuff that Oranckay describes for children born to US citizens who have been outside the US for a certain period of time (I wish I could find the link), who knows how far they'll go?
Remember, you're either for them or against them.
It's not an anti-Bush thing as such, more anti-policy. Relations were definitely better with Clinton although the US is pretty firm on NZ changing current nuclear policy. It seems like relations will never be the same unless we do what America wants. That's the major sticking point. Georgie Boy doesn't help though.
ReplyDeleteHow was the US trying to get NZ to change its nuclear policies?
ReplyDeleteThe question is how ARE they... They have frozen out New Zealand from any high level contact with US Government, they have refused to talk free trade agreements with NZ, basically snobbing NZ and the years of arse kissing that we have put in over the years... One side of our parliament is wavering...
ReplyDeleteSan Nakji wrote:
ReplyDeleteThe question is how ARE they... They have frozen out New Zealand from any high level contact with US Government, they have refused to talk free trade agreements with NZ, basically snobbing NZ and the years of arse kissing that we have put in over the years... One side of our parliament is wavering...
Even under the Clinton administration they were freezing out NZ from any high level contact with the US government? Even under Clinton they refused to talk free-trade agreements with NZ?
I did not know that. What are the aims of the US? What is the US government trying to get NZ to do? Was the Clinton administration trying to do the same thing?
Yup, Clinton did nothing for us, although he did make an appearance. They want us to get back into the American fold. This means accepting nuclear ships and probably then will will have to invade some poor country...
ReplyDeletesan nakji ajushi: "..probably then will will have to invade some poor country..."
ReplyDeletefear them invading kiwis!!
Yup, Clinton did nothing for us, although he did make an appearance. They want us to get back into the American fold. This means accepting nuclear ships and probably then will will have to invade some poor country...
ReplyDeleteSo this was about not allowing nuclear subs to visit? I have heard about that.
But allowing them to visit and going off to war are two different things.
Hey, aren't NZ, Australia, and the USA under some sort of mutual defense pact?
Nah, we were kicked out for the nuclear thing...
ReplyDeleteIEB. If you were Fiji, I would be scared!
ReplyDelete