Sunday, May 17, 2009

Pretty old buildings

Marmot at the Marmot's Hole posted some recent photos of what I believe is one of the buildings in this old post.

The smaller building on the right in my first photo appears to be former Inchon office of Nippon Yusen (also seen here). Marmot says that office "was built either in 1895 or 1933 (I bet the latter)." If that's the same building, though, it was constructed no later than 1894.


  1. What was your source on those old photos? I saw the second one elsewhere marked as '1904' during the Russo Japanese war (not that I have a link, though - it was a while ago).

  2. I honestly don't remember. Frankly, I'm not sure if I even found it myself, or if someone had sent it to me; I believe it was on a history-oriented site, but I can't remember for sure.

    That was 3-1/2 years ago, and it would likely be on one of my company computers that are mostly in storage. At any rate, I'm sure I would have checked out the veracity of the date before posting that.

    You may recall that you, by the way, cited the same photos in one of your posts a few months later.

    I guess one way to check would be to find a source of Japanese military uniforms in the Sino-Japanese War and the Russo-Japanese War and compare them to the soldiers in the picture.

    At any rate, if that is the same building in Marmot's post, then 1933 would not be correct at all.

  3. I don't have time for this tonight (work deadline), but you've piqued my curiosity, Matt (this compulsion to prove or disprove things is why I stay out of The Marmot's Hole).

    This site backs up the 1894 date.

    It contains the photo and this caption:

    July 28-29, 1894 First Sino-Japanese War:
    Major-General Oshima Yoshimasa leads 4,000 mixed Japanese and Korean troops on a rapid forced march from Seoul to face 3,500 Chinese troops garrisoned at Seonghwan Station. The Chinese gradually lose ground to the superior Japanese numbers, and finally retreat towards Pyongyang. Chinese casualties amount to 500 killed and wounded, compared to 82 Japanese casualties. (Sondhaus, Sedwick)

    I'm now more confident than a few minutes ago that the 1894 date is right.

  4. There are some neat photos, drawings, and paintings at that site. This site, too, has some interesting prints from that same period, particularly relating to Japanese military successes in Pyongyang and other places in Korea.

    The first link, by the way, I'm pretty sure is NOT the one where we got the picture back in 2005.


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